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ZombieChalmers · 5 months

He
reminds me of someone with OCD/anxiety looking at PubMed trying to find
things that might kill him. There are many scary things out that, but
it's not at all clear to me that obsessing over toxins in your diet is
actually going to help anything. He may be going two steps backward for
every step forward, ex: cutting out or processing kale to avoid
oxalates.

Dave's in-vitro level approach would be correct if we had a
comprehensive understanding of human biochemistry, epigenetics, etc. But
we don't. So there's a large possibility of fooling yourself into
thinking you're doing something better when you're actually doing it
worse. If you try enough radical alterations to your diet in an attempt
to improve things I think there's a substantial possibility of stepping
on a landmine that you didn't know existed.

So I look at him basically the same way I look at most people who
have stacks that are 20 supplements long, 15 of which don't have human
research on them.

I think he believe his own hype. I've seen plenty of people on here and longecity saying similar things with similar logic.

EnLilaSko · 5 months

He's a salesman. Don't take anything he says serious, but do your research. Some things are probably fairly good.

FromThatOtherPlace · 5 months

Dave is a good guy and he means well, just don't buy his overpriced coffee.

hapsbang · 5 months

Not
really a fan. He extrapolates a lot of his ideas from indirect studies,
and when challenged about it he usually starts playing the "studies are
really expensive" or "studies have shown a correlation" angles on why
he doesn't have direct information. A key example of this is his whole
Bulletproof Coffee thing. He's claims about mycotoxins hasn't really
been backed up and he doesn't even provide proof that his extremely
expensive coffee beans are as mold and toxin free as he claims.

He's into some really interesting stuff, but he's a salesman first and foremost.

TheLiberalSoup · 5 months

A
little knowledge is a dangerous thing. He's got a little knowledge
about everything. And he's virulently anti-vegan because he's convinced
himself that it's a core part of his identity to be anti-vegan.

YankDownUnder · 5 months

He's
a shyster through and through. He'll go on and on "natural" this and
"organic" that, spew the usual leftie three-bong-rip pablum about GM
food, and how "the corporations" are putting fluoride in your water from
some imagined nefarious purpose, but also says he's taken modafinil
daily for years and never sleeps more than 4 hours per night. I want
someone to ask him what's "natural" or "organic" about that.

FactsBeatOpinions · 5 months

I
think he's not nearly as bad as some like to make him out to be.
However, his advice and recommendations do not all have the same amount
of evidence to back them. Several articles on his site have lots of
great NIH studies linked to them. I personally find I benefit from
following some of his advice. His dietary advice and what's good/bad to
eat is pretty on target. He has a lot of valuable insights. I consider
him like an awesome dude that has done a shit load of independent
research and experimentation. That does not mean it applies to me every
time, or that he is always correct. He does initiate lots of interesting
research of my own, and has inspired me to look WAY more into things I
never knew about though!

I do not know how much I would spend on his stuff, unless I had money
to burn. I consider a lot of his stuff subjective, and just like
Nootropics, I'm sure there are some people who find they benefit, and
some who dont, from his products. Personally, I've stopped drinking
coffee altogether, because I did notice a difference, even long before I
even knew about him or mycotoxins. Sometimes coffee makes me feel like
shit... Often, in fact. So, I drink no coffee now. I drink tea, and I
feel way better! I thought it was just my gut being a bitch. He helped
me realize that I should be paying attention to food's effects on my
body and sense of wellbeing. I am very grateful to him for that....

I have not purchased his coffee instead though, and until I'm
independently wealthy or there's a lot more supportive evidence for some
of his stuff, I may not invest in trying some of his stuff myself.

He's definitely interesting, and worth staying up to speed with. He's
not an idiot, and he's not just trying to screw people with snake oil
either. He believes what he says. Just like you and I do. We have all
found out later on, in many moments I'm sure for all of us, that we were
wrong, or we came to conclusions without all the evidence. That doesn't
make us bad people deserving of vitriol and condescension from
internet anons or anyone for that matter.

nicLlaus · 5 months

I'm
always weary of these sorts of individuals who search PubMed to support
argument X, publish argument X on their blog, and repeat that process
indefinitely

They're missing a crucial step: peer-review, or arguing/reasoning
with others about it. This can be done formally, as with academic
journal peer review, or informally, like discussing with or reading the
opinion of other's holding an opposing opinion.

So, Dave Asprey, Mr Bullet-Proof. He's convinced mycotoxins and
gluten are evil. He searches Pubmed for studies supporting this view,
and then publishes that information through his blog. That's fine,
whatever.

But what's not fine is neglecting to take a step back to argue
(open-mindedly) with others who disagree. I'm pretty sure the prevailing
scientific opinion is mycotoxins aren't as bad as Asprey suggests, so
it should be hard for Asprey to find these people and discuss. If
everyone goes into the debate with an open-mind, I think the truth wins
out in the end.

It's a good lesson for everyone. A little bit of knowledge is a
dangerous thing. It's even more dangerous to reason on your own. Proper
reasoning should not be done alone, but in a social context. We can
convince ourselves of very wacky things. It's imperative that an
individual finds other groups or individuals with the opposite opinion.
Then discuss and argue it out. At the end of this group-reasoning
process, the "truth wins".

chrico03 · 5 months

I usually question everything he claims until it can be backed by direct research.

hakczar · 5 months

He's
found several things that improve his state of being...but he has
raging confirmation bias and likes to make decisive conclusions from
inconclusive studies. I would say I like his goal though...trying to
systematically improve human performance...definitely noble.

milkywaymasta · 5 months

Yeah,
I was able to find a source for what seems to be the same coffee for
half the price and bought the MCT Oil on Amazon for a discount. I don't
see anything wrong with him charging extra though. I just finished
watching this presentation: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8eZLSzLE_Vs
and I've heard most if not all of his biohacks from other sources. He
says he made $6 million by the time he was 26 and spent $250,000 on
biohacking himself and has connections with people we can only dream of
having.

indoordinosaur · 5 months

I
listened to Joe Rogan's podcast once when Asprey was on it and he
started talking about how soldier's can "sense" when there's a sniper
sight on them from some sort of magnetic field sent out by the sniper's
eyes LOL.

Before I saw that podcast I thought he sounded pretty legit but then I
realized a lot of his stuff can't really be backed up with real
science.

ohsnapitsnathan · 5 months

Pretty
much everything on the site is just his hypotheses about things.
There's very little empirical backing for most of the claims he makes.

Now, that's not the worst thing ever because, as he mentions, studies
are expensive, and some of the hypotheses are pretty reasonable (i.e.
that eating more omega-3 fats might improve your mood). However, some of
them are complete pseudoscience.
In particular, he seems to be obsessed with the idea that we're all
exposed to various kinds of mysterious "toxins" which impact our health
in mildly annoying ways. So YMMV.

DukeBerith · 5 months

Nothing more than a snake oil salesman.

Snareface · 5 months

Dave
Asprey is a clown wearing the suit of an educated person. He had
successfully, and unfortunately, broken into the self improvement
community consciousness with his sophistry. I still can't fucking get
over his "bad coffee is bad, has toxins, and makes you cry" argument to
buy Bulletproof coffee.

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